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I used the LASH system for the first time recently. I have to say that I will use it again.
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Excellent. Now did the clips break off low enough to hide in the grout? Are those joints 1/32?
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It's an amazing design, actually. Once broken as advertised it does so below the bottom of the tile. It does have one or two drawbacks but overall it's like having an extra helper.
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Nice pic thanks wayner.
Hey did you use medium bed mortar to reduce settling on those heavy monsters? Where's you buy them? I still have to special order them here. |
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No, I used 917. I got the lash at tile tool shop.
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WOW! Thats cheaper than they were before I think. Very affordable and much cheaper than that other system that uses the gun. I will order some for my next large format tile job for sure.
Hey was it hard getting the wedges in there? How'd you do that, with fingers? |
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$235 for 1000 clips, and 300 wedges.
1000 clips does 250 tiles, reusing the wedges. After shipping and the original purchase of the wedges, I figure it adds about .70¢-.72¢ a foot to my cost. Mark it up!!! You know no retail slaves will be purchasing that, unless the retailer provides it for them(*which wouldn't be a bad idea for them from what I see!!) |
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I think I used about 800 lashes on maybe 250 tiles (700 sf). You can't use them after your mortar sets, that's one drawback. If you count the wedge cost as a tool because it's reuseable I'd guess give or take 18 cents a foot for the lashes.
I started out setting the wedges with my forefinger and thumb. It gets pretty intense after a while cause you seem to be trying to get that extra click and the lash acts as one hefty spring. I use nitril gloves when setting tile so I was getting some nasty calouses. I hate that because calouses get in the way of experiencing the feeling of some of the softer things that life has to offer. At some point I went on to set the wedge with the back end of my margin trowel handle. That works pretty good especially if it's rubber. |
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The bigger the tiles the less cost. Less clips per sq.ft.
I was looking at the $160 for 1000 clip count, plus shipping, $180 total. Then the guys around here needing them on 12x12's @ 250sq.ft.. Heck, they need them on 4x4's. Hehehehe! |
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I don't think I'd use them with anything larger than 1/16" joint. ahhh...maybe I'd do an eighth. Would need additional spacers though.
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That statement was a lead on. OK why would you need more spacers. |
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I was wondering that, too???
It seems the clips are the spacers. I wonder if they make different thickness of clips for different grout joint sizes??? If not, that is where they need to focus the next step. |
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The clips are designed to gauge 1/16". Once you set the wedge if you're not careful you can move the tile horizontally. Once the wedge locks in under tension it's almost impossible to release unless you break it off. So if you're going with a wider joint you really need an additional spacer. I like the Tavy spacers.
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I see, and that pattern your using above needs less spacers err clips as well.
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You need two each side minimum, with staggered joints it's just a matter of placement. No worry about intersecting corners being misaligned.
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I'm starting a new construction above grade slab job this week that will have around 1000' of 18x18's on a diagonal. I have to build two glass block showers first before I get to that part. I am seriously considering trying out the LASH system. I do have a question.... I am in need of a very good tile cutter that will snap large format tiles on a diagonal.... can you suggest one?
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The problem isin't so much the size of the tile or diagonal cuts as the rough surface vs smooth surface of the tile and wether or not its a porcelain or ceramic. Although snapping on a perfect diagonal dead center is more difficult cus the snap can wander off the corners easily.
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I've got a FELKER Rubi Tile Cutter - TX-900 w/case barely used that I'll let go for $300 plus shipping.
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Is that the TX 900-N ? Will this cutter make clean off center diagonal cuts using a smooth porcelain tile? Why are you parting with it?
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It's not the N model. It does large format straight very nicely. Angles are hit & miss. I got it to do 20" diagonal a few years ago cause that's mostly what I sell. It just wound up being faster and more economical going to the saw.
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