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Originally posted by ĶĦĄØŞ:

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eleviating

=alleviating

I seriously wonder about you inspectors sometimes.

Thats Italian to you!

OK wayner, the spell checker is on checking you now.

Anyway what I said is di trut nothing but the trut so help me Jah.

How many people have watched anyone pour a rafter slab? I have watched several pours and not one have used any vapor barrier out here but for one commercial building at the city zoo recently.

you work in a zoo?
I thought you were an installer,,,,never know about you eye-tile-ons, just never know

35 cents per test no exceptions. maximum 3

Mike

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How many people have watched anyone pour a rafter slab?

Trick question, right?

takes three inspectors to , to, to, to, never mind,,,forgot the qusten to the anwsore

is it called a "Raft" slab or "Rafter" slab?

It's a secret.

Must be.

I can find Rafter Slabs as Roof Slabs..

nothing about Raft or on ground slabs 12" thick without stem/foundation walls..

Not important.

Back to the topic. What's wrong with 550.00 (initial 3 tests) plus 150 over 3 tests?

useless money doing useless things,
if they have it, and it is useless to them,
I see nothing wrong with you taking it to do useful things with it,,,,

I honestly think concrete testing is dumb, stupid, and a big dumb ass waste of money thing that people don't realize is dumbass stupid...

but, then, that is just my opinion, no, never mind

I agree with you Mr. Selva.
Flooring inspections are also a waste of money.

Why can't retailers have professional staffs to take care of their own problems? Why do they have to call in a third party to settle disputes?

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nothing about Raft or on ground slabs

Found it: It's not rafter slabs..

Raft Slabs.

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Found it: It's not rafter slabs..

Gee your pretty amazing researcher there. No wonder your an instructor

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I honestly think concrete testing is dumb, stupid, and a big dumb ass waste of money thing that people don't realize is dumbass stupid...

But ya'll don't mind disclosing that the indivivdual did no moisture testing in your reports if there is a mve problem do ya?

no,
was I there to see mve testing?

no, if no, how can I say I saw it? or did not see it?
just report the facts, and since, concrete can change, no, I don't blame installers for things that happen with concrete,,,,never will,,,,,,but, I know some inspectors do,,,,,

some inspectors see themselves as having "power" and they abuse it.....I have no power, I inspect, not accuse, I inspect, not to impress people,,,,I have no power to turn down a claim or approve it,,,,I report what my inspection found, move on.

When analyst ask me if the installer did moisture testing, I tell them I have no way to know,
when analyst ask me that, I also ask, shouldn't the person who sold the job, measured it, inspected the site, do the testing? I point out to them, the installer sees the site only for the first time he arrives to start installing.....so, how could he have tested?

nope, seal it, move on, stop the BS, move on, move on, move on, move on, move on....

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Originally posted by Bullitt:

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Found it: It's not rafter slabs..

Gee your pretty amazing researcher there. No wonder your an instructor

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I honestly think concrete testing is dumb, stupid, and a big dumb ass waste of money thing that people don't realize is dumbass stupid...

But ya'll don't mind disclosing that the indivivdual did no moisture testing in your reports if there is a mve problem do ya?

Tell us more about how you write reports stating there was, or was not, moisture testing performed. How did you do that? Did somebody tell you that?

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Originally posted by Mr.Snow:

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Originally posted by Bullitt:

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Found it: It's not rafter slabs..

Gee your pretty amazing researcher there. No wonder your an instructor

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I honestly think concrete testing is dumb, stupid, and a big dumb ass waste of money thing that people don't realize is dumbass stupid...

But ya'll don't mind disclosing that the indivivdual did no moisture testing in your reports if there is a mve problem do ya?

Tell us more about how you write reports stating there was, or was not, moisture testing performed. How did you do that? Did somebody tell you that?

It's a pretty simple process. I hate to school ya'll "certified" inspectors on this but all you have to do is ask for documentation of moisture testing. No documentation, no proof, no moisture testing. You do talk to the retailers don't you?

That'll be $1750.00 in a cashiers check please.

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Originally posted by Bullitt:

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Originally posted by Mr.Snow:

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Originally posted by Bullitt:

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Found it: It's not rafter slabs..

Gee your pretty amazing researcher there. No wonder your an instructor

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I honestly think concrete testing is dumb, stupid, and a big dumb ass waste of money thing that people don't realize is dumbass stupid...

But ya'll don't mind disclosing that the indivivdual did no moisture testing in your reports if there is a mve problem do ya?

Tell us more about how you write reports stating there was, or was not, moisture testing performed. How did you do that? Did somebody tell you that?

It's a pretty simple process. I hate to school ya'll "certified" inspectors on this but all you have to do is ask for documentation of moisture testing. No documentation, no proof, no moisture testing. You do talk to the retailers don't you?

That'll be $1750.00 in a cashiers check please.

you are getting close and are doing a good job. You're worth every penny you ask for.

One question: What is "Documentation"?
not being a smart ash by asking.. this is serious.

dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!
but, if you want to pay me to do it,
at my rate, I will do it,,,,I have no problem taking dumb people's money!

ok, serious question,,

ok, this is a good point Mike always makes, and that I and many others have said before also,

if you see evidence of moisture damage or contamination on an installed floor, why do the tests? you see it, you know it there, why?

if you go out, and pull up a vct or carpet tile, and there is water under it, do you really need a test to tell you, you have a moisture problem?

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One question: What is "Documentation"?
not being a smart ash by asking.. this is serious.

I've done a pictorial documenting CC testing onsite prior to installation. I believe its in the stranded bamboo pictorial.

As far as inspectors doing it on a claim, one, you need to know where it is coming from ie; topical or from substrate. I guess you could just be a simpleton about it and just state...its wet, my meter says its wet. Truly it is the consumer and retailers problem if it wet and where it is coming from but to just state...is wet. WoW impressive, as everyone already knows it is wet, but from what and where?
Coming from contractors standpoint like me it is pretty much mandatory to perform moisture testing.

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do you really need a test to tell you, you have a moisture problem?

As an installation contractor I can tell when a slab has exceeded a 5# threshold. I can feel it, smell it and often see the indicators. I don't need any other tests to tell me there's a problem. I've never had a slab spit out over 5# absent a source. Testing works to gauge remediation efforts, if you just intend on treating the symptom or sealing as a precaution, its a waste of time & money.