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What else would I do Mr. Grumpy? I sure don't want to be a salesman or installer !  Or a rug-binder or a color corrector or anything to do with physical labor ............. been there, done that.....Hey,, do you see the Mills searching for the low bidders on sidematch corrections? Low Bidder, again, gets the job !! |
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everything the mills do now, I think, is for the low cost, which is just good business,,,,
lets look at this logically, the mills have always encouraged schools, new schools also, to train as many inspectors as possible? why? simple, Supply and Demand....not tech knowledge, experience or the ability to reconstruct and figure out the Cause and Effect, they want, fast, quick inspections in their favor....now, many inspectors, scared that work as slowed down, and scared they will be cut off, scared they will have to get a real job because they view this as some kind of "gimmick" job, will do whatever the mills want at whatever price they dictate. How many "independent" businesses have their "customers" tell them how much they will pay, and, how they will do their jobs..... so, low bibber? yes, it is happening, in all areas, So, how many more new inspectors will come out this year? how much more will our 'areas' be diluted with cut rate low end inspectors begging for mill work? sad, who is to blame? the inspectors themselves are to blame.... they let it happen, they let brokerage services happen by doing work for them,,,look at Ray and now, Mike starting one. they let it happen, they let the mills dictate fee rates, they let it happen, they have several "associations" they pay money to as "members" but the "associations" and "schools" are run by the schools with input from the mills, ie, control them,,,,and each month, here comes a new bunch of new inspectors doing anything they can to get work,,,,and we guys, actually pay the "associations" to help support them to train up more inspectors to take our work from us.....not once has any school/association said to a person asking if there was "inspection work" in is area, there was already a glut of trained inspectors there,,,,what you hear is, from the schools, the associations and yes, a big one, from the MILLS! that yes, they need more and more "good" inspectors in the area or state.....and they "talk up good" the new student and then, tell the established inspectors, take a cut or the new guys get the work because they know, they can "control" them... yes, I hope a lot of guys get out, and I also hope, some day, to see "responsible" answers to their questions, and, "responsible" behavior such as saying no to guys from areas with several established inspectors already inspecting,,,, why pay money to an association whose main goal is, after they have your money, to train up your competition to take money from you? think about it. |
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1. Mike starting a service? No way. One must have some level of ability and intellect to start one of those.
2. Everybody must watch overhead costs and getting bids IS good business. 3. Associations: We need to support our associations. 4. Mills dictate fees? No. But they do have limits. Limits is a good business practice. 5. Inspection Services will always be here and if you don't understand the reasons; you are not an Inspector. 6. There will be more inspectors again this year. But we have lots of them dropping out. note: services and mills should be supporting the FULL TIMERS right now !! |
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you sure about all that?
So, if FCITS trained up 30 new inspectors for a new brokerage service, and that service sent 10 of them from Fla. to FCITS, to get them started, you would not be concerned? hell yes you would....I know I would, so would any inspector here if that happen in their area... but, lets focus on one issue right now, the associations training up more and more inspectors, saying there is a need, when, obviously there is not a need for more inspectors during this "shake down" you mention.... oh well, let me mention something more important, USC vs. NCSU,,,34 to nuthin Alabama vs Clemson, 34 to 10,, SEC rules! whupped up ass over them wussycandyass ACC, weak, weak, weak, when they run into, the Men and Women of the Southeastern Conference! Clemson, was weak, punky ass, sorry, pitiful, an embarrassment to the entire country,our state, an embarrassment to sports and life. They should dismantle their entire sports program, and go back to counting cows and shoveling cow dung, that is all their education is worth. |
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I don't worry about competition. I just keep advertising and working.
Spending time on my competitors takes away productive time obtaining and performing inspections. One can spend their time productively or negatively. I choose productive.... just look at all the websites we've built to bring more attention to www.FloorReports.com.... like it, or not, it works and is working. Every wonder why you don't hear the participants whinning and complaining? When something is working, they say nothing. When something is not working they lambast/complain/whine and become angry. |
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why is it on these boards, people can never separate the discussion from personalities and discuss a topic in the abstract?
ok, no "personal examples". should any association you support financially, train up your competition without consulting or informing you for approval? Should we, as inspectors, support any association that by it nature is to grow larger, which means, training our competition, be supported by us after we are certified? discuss that, if any of you can, without personalities in the abstract and person attacks,,,,think of this as a mental exercise...lets see who bends/breaks first, if any dare to try it!
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Who cares about competition?
not one trained inspector in 50 survives...... Like Stephen, and others, have said over and over again: One week of training does not produce an effective inspector and report writer. Hell, I hope these schools churn out dozens of trained idiots. Compare these newbies to the old timers who continue to attend educational seminars, industry functions and Association Training. The newbies don't survive without help from a mentor...... The smartest newbies stay in touch with a mentor and discuss findings, inspection techniques and report writing. Those without a mentor do not survive and are not able to get a foothold in the Inspection Industry. Why worry about others unless you don't have the ability to do the job yourself? Those individuals who worry about their competition have reason to worry !! They have to worry because they are no damned good at what they do. If you are good at what you do; there is no competition...... No wisdom, just facts. |
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Maybe, maybe not, never been afraid to try new things. I kinda thought you might be helpful instead of insulting me, us being good friends and all. I mean I am making an effort to follow your lead??? If Brokerages are the best things since shirt pockets, maybe I need to be more involved. Or maybe I'll just advise mills on which ones to use. Mike  Too old to rock and roll, too young to die. |
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If you need the software for your website; we'll sell you a copy of ours and adjust it to your particular needs. Faster and cheaper than developing one from scratch. Heck, we'll build you a website with all the bells and whistles if you wish. since we can copy ours and add a few things to it to make it your own;;; we could have that completed in about 6 weeks. No wisdom, just facts. |
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PM me a quote.
Mike Too old to rock and roll, too young to die. |
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Business does not work that way.
You'll have to send a formal request and proposal in writing explaining intentions, domain name, time frame, ect, to the President. Business to business does not work on the Good-'Ol-Boy venue. You'll have to be professional about this request and price quote. No wisdom, just facts. |
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Darn, it's hard to get into this brokerage crap.
Mike Too old to rock and roll, too young to die. |
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oh well,
Mike, I have a friend in charge of the computer system at a major university, who, has friends all over the country in computer science and programing,,,, in addition, IBM will design you a system, as will MS.... so, there you go, I think, if you rent a server from IBM, or server space, they will work with you on price, Apple also is moving strong into these markets, |
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Not to worry Lee, my IT dept can devise a system better than Ray's. It will not cost much as he has little to offer. But I am confused as to why he won't help his old pal Mike. You know he still owes me money.
Mike Too old to rock and roll, too young to die. |
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I thought you were just trying to be curious and obtain information... We'll lease you the system for a monthly fee if that would fit better into your budget. No wisdom, just facts. |
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got to stop this,
you two are cracking me up sometimes,,, ok, lets go to the concrete thread I posted to let Ray teach us some. |
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Actually, I received a memo from my researh dept. Telling me to hold off for a few days they need to fly into Dallas and show me some figures, so I guess it is on hold for now.
Mike Too old to rock and roll, too young to die. |
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If ya can't afford it;; ya can't afford it. Nothing wrong with that !!
Not everybody can afford to invest in a new business. |
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Go ahead Mike, mortgage your house to the hilt like Ray did. You can do it, we'll help.
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What House? Ray lives in a studio apartment next to the railroad tracks...
Important question. What was decided on the 10 best ways to succeed in the Inspection Industry? Be nice to hear from those actually inspecting full time. WHO, at this message board, is inspecting full time besides Fred/TuckersGrade and Selva? No wisdom, just facts. |
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