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Any thoughts on this one??

Mike

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Maintenance related. Manufacturing defects follow the warp of weft. looks like an amateurish spray treatment yet they kept it safely away from the books. Any pics under U/V?

Ok look at this one.

Mike

Manufacturing related


Too much spin finish.

Acid wash and thoroughly rinse, and bill the mill.

Pic 2 does look like spin finish

Nylon, not spin finish, but is manufacturing related.

Mike

The soil resistance ran out causing the lines initially, then the strange looking marks. The cleaner areas are the areas that have soil resistance. the darker areas are soiling in the areas with no protectant. Corrective action, clean by wet extraction and applied aftermarket protectant.

Mike

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Corrective action, clean by wet extraction and applied aftermarket protectant.

We have had to extract this sort of thing two or three times to get good results......WE have hot water extracted, and gone right back over it again after a few hours.


GO BULLS!

These pictures are good. Good work!......Thanks Mike for sharing.

Yeah, The next to last photo is of the area with the flame looking lines. Had to work on it a lot!! But we got it.

Mike

Nice job Mike. How often do you see this?

Also I wonder how the multiple cleaning effects the carpets performance long term, ya know the backing getting to wet?

Glue direct, shouldn't affect the carpet adversly at all, force dried.

Mike

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Originally posted by mikecurrin:
Glue direct, shouldn't affect the carpet adversly at all, force dried.

Mike

Soulda coulda mighta woulda

Nice job Mike .

And when it blows off the floor next year you can call it installation related.

Stephen, you know I only post old jobs, at least one year old. This one is nearly three, Still on the floor still doing fine. By the way IICRC is stating that wetting carpet makes the SBR bond stronger, not weaker, even floods.

MIke

from the mills,
flooding a carpet, or over wetting will cause the latex to be compromise by 10% plus,
this by the IICRC is an attempt to promote and protect the guys who try to dry carpet, restoration, after water damage or floods, that simple, another case of lying to and ripping off the consumer,
typical IICRC,,,,the consumer screwed over by the IICRC for the profit,
wouldn't it be nice if at least one school told the truth about things? think about it guys,
slt

Mike I have to disagree with that stance on wet carpet.

Delamination is sure to happen sooner, then later.

The carpet must be extracted properly and speed dried.........It sounds like Mike did just that. It should not delaminate.

we have just entered into an area where there was, years ago, much discussion.
Carpet mills say their warrantees are voided if the carpet is over wetted or flooded.
IICRC and the restorations clubs say it is not. Interesting there, who sets their warrantees? the janitors or the manufacturer? The janitors are now making technical decision and writing legal warrantees! they now are lawyers also!

and, they tell the insurance companies and homeowners it will be stronger and better after they dry it...

maybe if the latex was pure, but, now, we have the issue of "fillers" and the ratio of filler to latex....and when the carpet fails, as it always does after they try to "restore it", they blame the mills for using "filler", which they know the mills have to use, or should know that.

So, how many of us have done work for the insurance companies? I have on wood claims, but, rare for carpet.

maybe, a source of income? but, when I tried, I ran into the fact insurance companies have not been INFORMED!

All think the warrantees are still intact after the cleaners have finished drying it. When told no, it is auto voided if over wetted or flooded, they act like I am lying to them, then, they get mad at me, then, they say the mills are cheating them!

But wait!!! it says, on all carpet warrantees, voided! so, shouldn't an insurance company know this? Well, they should, unless they have been sold by lies by the cleaners so they can make money off the bad luck of the CONSUMER? Have we forgotten one important entity in all this? The CONSUMER! The insurance companies have been told they can save money by following the lies.
Sounds like typical NIFIC type of inspectors also, but, back to the CONSUMERS! They don't know carpet, and they trust the lying cleaners, and then, they are screwed because the insurance companies, after the carpet fails a few weeks after "RESTORATION" that they signed off on it,,,,

Lies, and more lies, and more lies, then, blame the mills, then, you know what happens after the mills say bug off, yep, it is you installers! who, they say, did not install it right! after the cleaners took it off the strips,,,,does it ever end with those lying cleaners?

it is a business practice by many of the janitors to make "sweetheart" deals with the insurance adjustors who also sometimes, own a percentage of the janitorial cleaning companies so the "work" always goes to, you guessed it already, haven't you?